Wipe out those break up tears because we’re going to show you that love is not a lie! Recently we’ve Autostraddle publisher as well as around icon
Heather Hogan
making reference to their 11 year(!!) relationship together with her wife and all situations lasting relationships.
But first! We celebrate becoming reunited â after an eventful summertime! â and perform a game of guess the program from fanfic.
SHOW RECORDS
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Heather:
We stayed from whole evening, that’s only very off fictional character for people. And that I believe it had been only, this really is indicative of our own commitment, i believe, where it was exactly like, this is exactly amazing. Why don’t we simply do the second thing. This is so fun. Let us just do the next thing. And I also think thatis just already been exactly how the union’s already been for like 11 decades. Every step recently already been like, „This part’s great. What’s the the next thing we could perform?“ So, yeah.
Theme song plays
Drew:
Hi, I’m Drew.
Christina:
And That I’m Christina.
Drew:
And thanks for visiting,
Wait, Is It a Date?
Christina:
Wait, Is It a romantic date?
is an Autostraddle podcast centered on the burning up concern: wait, is it a romantic date? In which Drew and I also discover all kinds of things about online dating. Understanding online dating, somethingn’t dating. And really only have a grand adventure, I would state.
Drew:
I would additionally declare that this has been a huge adventure up until now and certainly will keep on being. My name is Drew Gregory. I’m an author for Autostraddle and a filmmaker and a trans lesbian. And I want to have new things to add to the blend. We never ever can think about any such thing new. I think those are my identities.
Christina:
Sometimes identity does not alter, despite exactly what TikTok will tell you.
Drew:
I Am Jewish.
Christina:
Yeah. I Am Talking About likeâ
Drew:
Kind of. I am talking about, yeah. No, I am not religious, but that’s additionally part of my identity. You’ll inform from my hair.
Christina:
That has hadn’t altered however, I suppose.
Drew:
That I Am Jewish?
Christina:
Yeah. You’ve been Jewish.
Drew:
No, I Have Been Jewish. Yeah, that did not take place between the two periods. Really, who happen to be you, Christina?
Christina:
I’m Christina. I am also an author at Autostraddle. A loud homosexual online. I am truly looking towards the regarding Princess Diana season, AKA cycle shorts and sweatshirts. That’s where i am wanting to be. I’m in Philadelphia, making it 96 levels today. Therefore we’re slowly getting here. It is simply like i’d like it nowadays. It really is my personal ideal time. I want to end up being a principal figure inside the autumn, and it’s really maybe not going on however.
Drew:
Yeah. Well, what’s exciting you are disclosing just now is actually, thus for our listeners, it has been a week since the final occurrence, in fact it is what it constantly is. But also for united states, we in fact recorded 1st six periods once we had been locating the vocals and creating this brand-new podcast. We recorded that ahead, but now we are rather current. So this is like we have now had a whole summer time. Therefore we haven’t taped in several months therefore we’ve been doing all kinds of things
Christina:
Uncharted region. The past time we recorded, we hadn’t satisfied. We have now satisfied in person.
Drew:
That is correct! Yes!
Christina:
Drew was in my personal ding, dang house, only chilling out.
Drew:
Yes!
Christina:
I might just awake and get want, „Well, appear, that’s Drew over indeed there.“
Drew:
Therefore great.
Christina:
It was truly wonderful.
Drew:
You’ve got these a pleasant home.
Christina:
Thanks a lot. It is a homosexual disorder house and we like it really dearly. Yeah. Therefore we’re just on a new trip and it’s really really exciting is taking place this endeavor with this audience. Will we have whatever else we would like to pontificate when it comes to before we obtain into all of our little game?
Drew:
I am talking about, I don’t know. I Experienced a big summertime, but I Suppose situations can come upwards as episodes come-along, butâ¦
Christina:
Yeah, I do not would like you to weight it all in the front.
Drew:
You do not need me to spoil something?
Christina:
Yeah. Load every thing in the front? My personal God, exactly what a horrible sentence.
Drew:
It sounded somewhat intimate, and I Absolutely had more of a looked at similarâ
Christina:
It performed!
Drew:
I thought much more though that you are currently leaving Home Depot and had been like stepping into your car or truck, that I learn there is no need, but that has been additionally where my personal brain is, which also may be intimate.
Christina:
In addition just love the thing that is keeping me from gonna Residence Depot is an automobile rather than the person that i’m. Like anytime i am at a house Depot, some one has-been like, „Ma’am could you be lost? Are you secure right here?“ And I also’m want, „No, honestly. Plenty lumber about. I’m not secure.“ Thus I have a casino game for Drew because we want to play video games.
Drew:
I am listening.
Christina:
And I also made the decision, in both respect of my self and the guest, that this was going to be just a little intro to the realm of fanfic for Drew. What exactly I have completed is actually I’ve taken five programs from Drew’s ideal Characters in tv listing, and I am planning study you some labels from AO3’s fanfiction and you are clearly attending have to guess which of shows these tags tend to be making reference to. I am going to start basic, they will certainly get more particular into the tv show even as we go along.
Drew:
Okay. I just have some questionsâ
Christina:
Obviously you will do.
Drew:
Because I am not sure a great deal regarding fanfic world. Thus every tv show has actually terms that are involving that show?
Christina:
Yes.
Drew:
That assortment in specificity, i might envision?
Christina:
Yes. Yes, they do.
Drew:
And in the event that you desired to discover a show that had like, I am not sure, medieval times you could potentially hit the medieval label.
Christina:
We’ll declare that I didn’t find any medieval times labels in virtually any among these shows. Want to see it.
Drew:
Well, that is not my flavor, but I became merely throwing one thing out.
Christina:
Yes.
Drew:
Because I guess inside my mind, I was like, oh, well, if you find yourself checking out fanfic, you are looking for shows that have actually characters you want. But that’s never possible. Sometimes you are checking for a subject and after that you can find out shows from fanfic?
Christina:
You could potentially. That might be an unusual solution to approach fanfic because most folks address it understanding the ship obtained in mind. Then it is said, I want to read perhaps an alternate market version of this fanfic. Possibly I would like some harm convenience. Probably i’d like a slow burn. Perhaps i simply wish some directly smut. There’s a lot of areas by which folks go. Following there is merely added labels, letting you know the sort of flavor and vibe in the tale. And weare going to get taste and feeling. Because obviously boats deliver it out and another market isn’t especially useful per the tv show, so we’re going to be particular towards tv series.
Drew:
Okay, cool. Let’s jump into it.
Christina:
All right.
Drew:
Let us discover with each other. Yeah.
Christina:
Fine. The first one. We will focus on fictional politics, praise kink, abandonment problems, very sluggish burn.
Drew:
Praise kink, political⦠imaginary politics?
Christina:
Imaginary politics, yes.
Drew:
Does that mean like politics which are grounded from inside the real world, but are fictional or entirely imaginary politics?
Christina:
You will findn’t check the fic involved, but i am presuming it indicates completely imaginary politics.
Drew:
Okay.
Christina:
We can continue.
Drew:
Yeah, carry on.
Christina:
Last abuse, injured convenience, I need soft what to live and thus do you really. Entertaining tag. Merely must study that certain.
Drew:
Okay, wait. Possibly i ought to take another and think about what my favorite programs are. Okay. Because i am trying to think about the implies that have actually politics in them. Oh hold off, can it be
The L Keyword?
Christina:
This 1 just isn’t
The L Word.
No.
Drew:
For the reason that it does have artificial politics.
Christina:
It will.
Drew:
Because Bette runs for gran. I’m not sure if you understand that.
Christina:
Oh, i really do.
Drew:
Okay, let us see. The Otherâ¦
Vida
provides politics.
Christina:
Vida
has actually politics.
Drew:
Is-it
Vida?
Christina:
Unfortuitously,
Vida
does not have any fanfics.
Drew:
Oh, exactly what?
Christina:
I know. So folks, reach it.
Drew:
People, access that. I’d read that fanfic.
Christina:
Individuals, reach it.
Drew:
Okay. Let us see. How Many Otherâ¦
Christina:
I am able to carry on.
Drew:
Continue. Yeah.
Christina:
Cat and mouse. Possessive conduct.
Drew:
Oh, oh,
Killing Eve.
Christina:
There you go.
Drew:
Cat and mouse had gotten me. Oh, praise kink. Yeah. Okay, it’s all clicking. It is all clicking.
Christina:
All of it clicks. It all presses. It actually was additionally difficult because I experienced discover types that were certain sufficient to the show, but also like, it could shock you to definitely know there’s a lot of praise kink things on the market.
Drew:
Yeah.
Christina:
Exactly like plenty. Just like a ton.
Drew:
I think that. I favor our neighborhood.
Christina:
I am aware. One of these brilliant is not on your listing of preferred shows and/or favored television characters because some of your chosen television shows didn’t have fics, that was unfortunate.
Drew:
Great.
Christina:
But this might be a tv show there is discussed quite a bit and that I think you’re going to get it.
Drew:
Okay.
Christina:
At some time. This might be will be so easy for your needs, i’m.
Drew:
Oh, Jesus. Pressure.
Christina:
Male relationship. Emotionally repressed.
Drew:
Looking?
Christina:
No.
Drew:
Ted Lasso?
Christina:
Yep. Yep.
Drew:
Like, what shows do we view with men? Okay, let us attempt the homosexual any. Nope. Let’s try the straight one.
Christina:
Yeah, one other any would definitely be „team connecting“ and I ended up being like, which is a simple one. Absolutely a simple one. All right. Let’s see. Canon personality passing, LGBTQ figure of tone. Absolutely a tongue twister available. Groups of option. Mom girl relationship.
Drew:
Feel 8?
Christina:
No. In the area, i’d state. I might state because area.
Drew:
Pose?
Christina:
Yeah. The second one would definitely be canon gender work, so â all right, there is two a lot more.
Drew:
Okay. I really like it.
Christina:
Jealousy. I am frightened of your subsequent event because I do not trust the authors. A literal label on this subject fic. Famous.
Drew:
Okay. I mean, I don’t imagine
Glee
is found on my list, but that’s the things I would first believe.
Christina:
It is not
Glee.
I don’t believe
Glee
was actually on any of your listings.
Drew:
It is not.
Christina:
But amusing point. Ex-lovers to pals back into lovers trope, family members feels, friendship. An extended awaited reunion.
Drew:
Ex-lovers to friends right back. Is it
The L phrase?
Christina:
Really
The L term.
Drew:
Okay. I happened to be like, ex-lovers to buddies returning to ex⦠Yeah, the ex-lovers.
Christina:
The sad thing about
The L phrase
fanfic could be the staggering number of Bette Tina fanfic can be like, y’all demand toâ¦
Drew:
You are sure that, I think we possibly may have an excuse to find yourself in this later on. Which is slightly tease for the major subject.
Christina:
All right. Anxiety.
Drew:
Okay.
Christina:
Bittersweet finishing.
Drew:
Freaks and Geeks?
Christina:
Close â no, maybe not near. Really don’t want to lie to you personally.
Drew:
I don’t know exactly why. I recently took a jab at angst and bittersweet closing. That is simply type of my personal thing.
Christina:
Yeah. That’s true. That’s best shown. Romance (really unfortunate). That’s in parentheses, the very sad.
Drew:
And it’s perhaps not
The Leftovers.
Christina:
It’s not
The Leftovers.
I’m not planning give this-
Drew:
Okay. I will be able to get this. Therefore anxiety.
Christina:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Drew:
Bittersweet closing.
Christina:
Mm-hmm (affirmative). Romance parenthesis sad.
Drew:
Romance, really unfortunate.
Christina:
Unresolved intimate tension.
Drew:
That is all. This is just me personally. This can be like everything. This could possibly you need to be such a thing.
Christina:
Yeah, thanks for visiting fanfic, hottie.
Drew:
Ooh. After all, wow. Exactly what a welcome.
Christina:
Pining is yet another one.
Drew:
Just how is this in the same family? Okay, wait, i’d like to think of reveals that i enjoy which can be homosexual and now have an angst. Pining.
Christina:
I am going to say this show is certainly not homosexual.
Drew:
Oh.
Christina:
However it is a demonstrate that i am aware you adore.
Drew:
Ooh.
Christina:
Do you need the one thatwill give it out?
Drew:
I do think we need to access with all the podcastâ
Christina:
I really do.
Drew:
In case it had been simply both you and i prefer hanging out as friends, i might be like, no, no, no, provide me personally an one half time. But okay, provide me one.
Christina:
Blasphemy, spiritual traumatization.
Drew:
Fleabag.
Christina:
Truth be told there truly.
Drew:
Truth be told there it really is.
Fleabag
is a show that since a number of the insane society around it offers eliminated away and it is in contrast to all these frustrating individuals characters, i am love, wonderful tv series.
Christina:
Yeah.
Drew:
Simply the show.
Christina:
Yeah.
Drew:
Exactly what a good, fantastic tv plan. Which was lots of fun. Thanks a lot.
Christina:
Anytime.
Drew:
And I also’d will only create a public service⦠No, that is not the goals. Like a request to people that Needs some
Vida
fanfic. I will see clearly. I’m not sure who i’d like that it is between. Possibly it can be, what’s it called if it is like two⦠We performed this. We performed this for the television staff. We performed like a cross⦠what is the phrase for it? What’s it if it is like multiple programs?
Christina:
Yeah. Cross⦠Cross⦠That thing. I’m sure what you’re saying. I cannot think about the phrase. We’re able to bring our guest in. I know they know the word.
Drew:
Okay. We’re going to get into all of our major subject we could pull in all of our visitor so the woman head does not explode as she is trying to reveal this term. Guest, do you wish to present yourself?
Heather:
Yes. Hello, this is certainly Heather Hogan. I’m an Autostraddle author and publisher. And often while I tune in to this podcast, I play along adore it’s a-game show whenever y’all do your own games. It had been quite difficult for me personally are silent while this had been taking place.
Christina:
I was like, this is certainly going to be actually fun, but it is also gonna be so very hard in my situation to work on this and Heather you need to be hushed.
Heather:
Yeah. My personal favorite to date has been, „Exactly who mentioned It: Drew or Sappho?“
Christina:
Thank-you.
Heather:
And that I had been certainly cheering like I was on
The Purchase Price Is Correct.
I happened to be want, „Christina, no it is Drew! It Is Drew! It Is Drew! No, it’s Sappho!“ However you did great. You probably didn’t even need my support at that video game.
Christina:
Re-listening compared to that one, I found myself like, well, damn i recognize my buddies slash i assume the written text of Sappho.
Heather:
You probably did very well.
Drew:
You crushed it. I also experienced⦠to make certain the game worked, I attempted it on several individuals. Some individuals who do understand me personally much better than you are doing, Christina, and all cannot get it done. So I was actually really amazed by you.
Christina:
Feels like I’m a success, which can be all those things issues.
Drew:
Heather, inform us just what that phrase is actually for our fanfiction.
Heather:
It’s just crossover.
Christina:
It really is a crossover, yeah!
Drew:
Crossover! Oh, okay. Okay. I thought there seemed to be some extravagant word because of it. But anyways, if someone else would like to compose
Vida
fanfic that is a crossover, it’s something else entirely that I love. I’d like to see more of it. So our very own major topic this week just isn’t fanfic. Truly lasting connections. Because, Heather, just how long are you presently within existing union?
Heather:
I was with my partner for 11 years.
Drew:
Oh, that is way too long.
Christina:
Drew, have you done something consistently for 11 decades? Because We definitely have not.
Drew:
No, not even gender. We haven’t completed any such thing. Exactly what have actually We {done|completed|acco
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